Plenty of politics to go around. There's the obvious abstracts, repeating very specific catch phrases about climate change and what we all agree must be done about it. The grant applications, and the Journal politics, which leave important hypotheses out to dry. There's the structure of scientific pursuit itself, which pretends to be decentralized, but ends up being a sort of bureaucratic anarchy.
There's also the structure of education, which ends up selecting for specific types of people who are willing to put up with the above nonsense.
Arabs and incentives:
If we are willing to take expulsions off the table entirely, we can't cover our eyes and let the Arabs 'educate themselves'. The sick remnants of Soviet sponsored 'National Liberation' are alive and well, as are larger Arab National ambitions. Islam, and the Muslim Brotherhood also must be considered as given, making a hands off approach suicidal.
Besides all this, you have populations here with incredibly backwards cultures, and a high inbreeding coefficient, so expecting them to 'educate themselves' is a recipe for allowing Israel's enemies to do it for you(or worse, our 'friends').
Giving them a state makes all the above issues even worse.
So what are the incentives? What do we even want? What do we expect them to want?
Yeah, I have a pretty low opinion of modern academia; most of the inmates are basically intellectual prostitutes, working for a low fee.
As for what we want from the Arabs and what we expect them to want, again, the Iron Wall said it all, and the kontzeptzia was just another rehash of it.
Thank you, Baruch, for this incredible interview of Prof. Aumann. I’ve listened to his interviews before but this one was special. Keep it up! Bivracha, Jorge
Very interesting interview. From an American perspective it’s always fun to hear the worldview of Israelis of different walks of life.
I sense a fatalism in Prof. Aumann’s words speaking about the future, which he is obviously not alone in. There’s always a looming idea of the “day to come” where the Arabs finally finish the job and the land can go back to its “natural” state of Arab lawlessness.
Narratives make the world go round. A national consciousness expecting future defeat feels very depressing and a recipe for disaster. Israelis feel that their victories are always narrowly avoiding G-d’s intentions, rather than being a part of them.
Perhaps the Arabs won in the spiritual front. We always see Memri TV clips of them talking about the future destruction of Israel and how that is actually G-d’s will, it just hasn’t happened yet for whatever reason. Do mainstream Israeli TV stations talk about the inevitability of the Jewish settlement of all of Eretz Yisrael? I’m assuming not.
From an outside perspective, it seems crazy to feel hopeless when Israel is so far beyond its neighbors in every respect and has never lost a war in its history. For once Jews can’t see a miracle right in front of them!
Academia "Hard Science":
Plenty of politics to go around. There's the obvious abstracts, repeating very specific catch phrases about climate change and what we all agree must be done about it. The grant applications, and the Journal politics, which leave important hypotheses out to dry. There's the structure of scientific pursuit itself, which pretends to be decentralized, but ends up being a sort of bureaucratic anarchy.
There's also the structure of education, which ends up selecting for specific types of people who are willing to put up with the above nonsense.
Arabs and incentives:
If we are willing to take expulsions off the table entirely, we can't cover our eyes and let the Arabs 'educate themselves'. The sick remnants of Soviet sponsored 'National Liberation' are alive and well, as are larger Arab National ambitions. Islam, and the Muslim Brotherhood also must be considered as given, making a hands off approach suicidal.
Besides all this, you have populations here with incredibly backwards cultures, and a high inbreeding coefficient, so expecting them to 'educate themselves' is a recipe for allowing Israel's enemies to do it for you(or worse, our 'friends').
Giving them a state makes all the above issues even worse.
So what are the incentives? What do we even want? What do we expect them to want?
I've yet to see even a serious sketch.
Yeah, I have a pretty low opinion of modern academia; most of the inmates are basically intellectual prostitutes, working for a low fee.
As for what we want from the Arabs and what we expect them to want, again, the Iron Wall said it all, and the kontzeptzia was just another rehash of it.
Thank you, Baruch, for this incredible interview of Prof. Aumann. I’ve listened to his interviews before but this one was special. Keep it up! Bivracha, Jorge
Thank you!
Very interesting interview. From an American perspective it’s always fun to hear the worldview of Israelis of different walks of life.
I sense a fatalism in Prof. Aumann’s words speaking about the future, which he is obviously not alone in. There’s always a looming idea of the “day to come” where the Arabs finally finish the job and the land can go back to its “natural” state of Arab lawlessness.
Narratives make the world go round. A national consciousness expecting future defeat feels very depressing and a recipe for disaster. Israelis feel that their victories are always narrowly avoiding G-d’s intentions, rather than being a part of them.
Perhaps the Arabs won in the spiritual front. We always see Memri TV clips of them talking about the future destruction of Israel and how that is actually G-d’s will, it just hasn’t happened yet for whatever reason. Do mainstream Israeli TV stations talk about the inevitability of the Jewish settlement of all of Eretz Yisrael? I’m assuming not.
From an outside perspective, it seems crazy to feel hopeless when Israel is so far beyond its neighbors in every respect and has never lost a war in its history. For once Jews can’t see a miracle right in front of them!
Can't believe this guy is 94. Amazing.
This interview should not be taken out of respect.
I beg to differ
Game … Theory…
It’s not a game and all theories are rather in ill odor now.
Game theory with its equal weighting of betrayal with loyalty, called Defect/Cooperate is not something to consider or mention in deadly times.
Like now.
Of course it is. How do you think human intelligence works, especially in deadly times?
Betrayal works both ways; people who feel themselves betrayed by their superiors no longer feel bound by their obligations.